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We haven't installed the springs yet. Just wanted to let you know that they were wrapped in a plastic shrink wrap that was torn in quite a few places and they were scratched quite a bit where the metal was exposed. Since these are going on a car that is being restored they are going to have to be repainted now. Please pass on to your supplier that padding of some sort should be wrapped between and around each piece before shipping. We have pictures if you are interested.